RV USERS CONTROL THE FUTURE OF RV HOLDING TANK ODOR CONTROL
Why the Simple Physics and Biology of having an odorless RV living space is not common practice yet
It’s not rocket science, just the basic rules of air pressure. When wind creates high pressure in a holding tank you are going to have fumes forced back in to living spaces from leaky seals and toilet flushes. You can cover them up with perfumed chemicals but there is as little reason to be inhaling sewer odors in your RV as to be inhaling your cars exhaust as you are driving.
We all know carbon monoxide is lethal, but hydrogen sulfide, a gas created by decomposing matter in waste holding tanks, is also highly toxic and potentially lethal in large amounts. At least hydrogen sulfide let’s you know of its presence by that “Rotten Egg” smell.
The automobile industry determined many decades ago that engine exhaust was poisonous and manufacturers had to follow simple rules and use certified parts to insure those gasses wouldn’t enter the vehicle passenger space. That’s just common sense. No such standards exist in the RV industry. A vent pipe is required on all holding tanks but there is no code that provides for creating a truly healthy and noxious gas free environment.
So our question is…If the RV industry knew there was a simple, inexpensive and 100% effective way to eliminate the possibility of noxious odors and gasses entering the RV living space, why would they not provide this as a service to their customers? (Note: The manufacturers that do use our product and have demonstrated they ARE interested in your health are listed on our website at www.360productsinc.com )
Why not? We decided to ask them. The answers we were most commonly given were as follows:
RESPONSE: Your product is too expensive to add to the cost of our product.
– An open pipe or the existing caps they use cost under $1 and are the root CAUSE of the problem. They all cause a back pressure to occur in winds as low as 5mph.
-Most RV manufacturers, except the ones currently installing the 360 Siphon® on the production line, install these caps as debris covers, thus creating most of the odor causing issues. This really amounts to a customer having to pay to correct a problem that the factory builds in at production.
– Retail cost to the customer to cure this problem with the 360 Siphon® averages $30 in North America. Installation at a service center averages around $40 for an average installed price of $70. If installed as a factory direct item the cost passed on to any new RV buyer would run about $16 per Siphon. That’s only about 23% of aftermarket installation.. It’s actually less than half the cost of the Siphon itself if the customer were to buy it off the shelf and install it themselves!
RESPONSE: We don’t have a problem with tank odors.
– This statement can only be interpreted as a denial of the number 1 negative issue of RV living. If odor issues were not a problem, holding tank chemicals, and the companies who make them would not exist. Since RV odor control is discussed by more RV users, and takes up more blog and forum space than any other subject, we think denial is absurd, or just a total disconnect by manufacturers from the real world issues of the lifestyle they serve. There are millions (yes millions) of articles available on the internet addressing the Biology of waste decomposition so this comment really made us do a double take.
– We could address this in more detail but believe the next comment clarifies their indifference.
RESPONSE: We don’t want to admit the problem because then we will have to be held accountable. Let’s just not bring it up in the the sales setting and the customer can deal with it later.
What can we say? Just proves our point about indifference to the issues of their customers.
RESPONSE Our dealers like the repeat business of chemical sales and this would cut into their sales.
This is a valid point on their agenda. If a “CURE” can be produced and a product that only treats “SYMPTOMS” can be eliminated; it might be a good idea to avoid the “CURE” for as long as possible to continue making money if you are the “SYMPTOM” provider. For example, once computer typing eliminated manual repair of Typos, WHITE OUT was no longer required to treat the “SYMPTOM”
In a self contained RV there are 100 gallons or more of waste that are stored just a few feet from where you live and breathe. The sad fact is that most manufacturers have decided it’s not worth an additional $15 to $30 to a buyer to live in an environment free of noxious odors and gasses (not to mention the amount of money saved on eliminating those CHEMICAL cover ups that are no longer needed). They constantly change the looks, floorplans and functions of the product they build but continue to use an antiquated waste and odor management system that has not changed in 7 decades.
The choice between the cost of an odor free RV environment is, as always, left to the consumer who determines if the value is worth the money they spend. Most change is consumer driven and our solution is no exception. We have learned from our Customers through the years that a smelly RV can make or break their overall RV experience and have had thousands tell us they were ready to quit the lifestyle altogether until they found the solution we provided.
The intent of this article is to make the RV using public aware that living with RV holding tank odors and pouring more chemicals in a toilet tank are no longer a “requirement” of the RV experience. There is a choice. Until the industry decides to “Cure” the issue we can only provide aftermarket assistance to current owners and ones who buy from the 20 brands listed on the website that have had the foresight to include it as a standard item on their new RV Products.
If this issue is important, or not, to you, we would ask for a quick check mark or a comment in the spaces provided. There is no obligation, your name does not go on any list, no information is sold and you will receive no correspondence from 360 Products unless you ask for it. It’s simply being done to show the industry what we RV’ers have experienced for over 7 decades, Period. We will continue, with your support, to at least make the industry aware that you care about an odor free environment when using your RV and would prefer to spend as little as possible to have it. Thanks for stopping by and “Happy, Healthy camping”
Bob Cravens President – 360 Products North America Inc.
Greg Cravens Vice President – Sales and Marketing
Ron Parry – Inventor of the 360 Siphon
360 Products Inc.